"Uh, a little," Annie says, stumbling a bit over the question about the staff. But Kate's all lit up about horses and riding, and Annie gratefully lunges for that line of conversation.

"Sounds a bit like sailing," she offers. "A little. When the waves are big, and you're just riding them, and there's this moment where you're not connected to anything..."

She misses it.

But she can't go out of sight of land any more.

"Same with surfing. Um, do, do you know what that is?"