"Caelum...," Kale stared up at the ceiling for a moment. This isn't really something they talk about with outsiders. "There were people he was supposed to be protecting... children... and he did something ... stupid... beyond stupid... and he got them killed... in a horrible way... just... horrible... I won't say it wasn't his fault... because he should have known better... but he was tricked, too... Caelum wasn't the brightest guy around, Rhys said... and he was punished for it... and his children were punished for it."